Background Briefing: June 20, 2024

Secret Recordings of Trump’s Dirty Trickster Reveals Plans to Steal the Next Election 

We begin with further secret recordings by Lauren Windsor and her associate Ally Sammarco this time capturing Roger Stone at Mar a Lago bragging about plans to steal the 2024 election for Trump. We discuss the apocalyptic mindset on the MAGA right which extends to the Supreme Court with Alito on a previous secret tape recording making it clear there can be no compromise with the unGodly. Joining us is Paul Waldman, a journalist and opinion writer and a former columnist at The Washington Post whose his books include Being Right Is Not Enough: What Progressives Must Learn from Conservative Success, The Press Effect: Politicians, Journalists, and the Stories that Shape the Political World, and most recently, White Rural Rage: The Threat to American Democracy. We discuss his article at NBC News, “Why the new Justice Alito recording is so unsettling.”


How the Next Election Can Be Stolen and What to Do About It

Then we explore further Roger Stone’s plans to steal the election and discuss how it can be done given the many vulnerabilities to our easily-gamed electoral system with relics like the Electoral College and even the recent Electoral Count Act of 2022 making it possible for state legislatures to require electors to cast votes based on the legislatures’ direction. Joining us is Lawrence Lessig, Professor of Law and Leadership at Harvard Law School, host of the podcast Another Way, founder of, and co-founder of Creative Commons. He clerked for Justice Antonin Scalia on the United States Supreme Court, and has received numerous awards and was named one of Scientific American’s Top 50 Visionaries. He is the author of Republic, Lost: How Money Corrupts Our Congress — and a Plan to Stop It, One Way Forward: The Outsider’s Guide to Fixing the Republic, and most recently, How to Steal a Presidential Election.